He loves it. The stereotype of Taurus semi-autos being junk is just that, a stereotype. It is one of the newest pistols on the market and has already gained a loyal following. Ive got an XDS & an XDM and have had no problems with Springfield. They hold a bunch of rounds, are small, and are both striker-fired, with polymer frames. Check out this excellent review of the P365 and the Hellcat! I have looked at and briefly fired the Hellcat but I think the SIG is a much better quality weapon. I've run a few mags through a rental hellcat it shot better then I expected, not a lot of snap. This oversized recoil guide rod prevents the slide from coming out of battery when shoved into a bad guy in some extreme close quarters work. For me, the flat trigger is preferred over the curved trigger. Its between that, or a Kahr PM9 or a 911 9mm. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Sig Sauer P365 vs. Springfield Armory Hellcat: Which Is Better For Concealed Carry? However, I have probably a thousand rounds out of both guns. Considering that the last few times we've done videos on individual micro compact carry guns we get comments asking for opinions on some of the less well-known options, we decided to speed run 5. Tie an arms length of paracord to the trigger guard and swing it around Ninja style. Excellent. Big fingers, and they kept hitting the bottom of the curve. Im still anti-Springfield. It is 6.75 inches long and 4 inches tall. It would probably be fairer to compare the Springfield Hellcat vs Sig P365 as opposed to the SAS vs the Hellcat. Heads-Up Comparison: P365 vs. Hellcat vs. MAX-9 vs. M&P9 Shield Plus, Police Are Losing Credibility in the Gun World, Two of Smith & Wessons 90s Stainless Metallic Fantastics, Gun Review: Springfield Armory Ronin EMP 3 9mm 1911, Gun Review: Henry U.S. Gay, straight, Asian, black, transgender, Jewishnobody in this community cares what you are. I did like the Ruger also. So you like how the P365 looks from behind? I appreciate the windows on each side of the bottom of the grip frame, which allow a jammed magazine to be stripped out more easily. 22294 Views 55 Replies 38 Participants Last post by pooty, Jan 30, 2021. I do recommend upgrading the trigger. Small guns like this are not precision pistolsnot even a little bit. Copyright @2023 TigerDroppings.com. Overall its controls, including its takedown method, are the most difficult to use of the four guns. I really think you need to update the article to include this latest model as it's a real winner. For my Max 9 I just snap the pin catch lever down, hold the slide at the point where the pin comes out with the pin exit facing down, and gently tap it on the cleaning mat, and it falls right out. Micro Compacts are defined by their small size and relatively high magazine capacity. WEIGHT: 16.0 oz. The 365 trigger is one which I would most definitely use with a safety. Then youre family. And why would you buy a normal p365 if you plan on using the 15 rounders? The Sig P365 and Hellcat are pretty dang similar. D. DBX . What generated this reply (to a great article btw) was the comments about symbols. This makes it easy to grip the slide and work it at a variety of angles. Im just old enough to remember the first big political correctness push in the late 80s/early 90s, and I really wish we had all had the good sense to give these people the middle finger and run them out on a rail but instead, we scoffed in private and humored them in public because we had been raised to be polite. Max-9 mags are listed at 63.95 per 2 x 10 mags = $320 The Shield is definitely the best shooter. Style has a place and this newer gun at least looks more duty grade with no obtrusive committee think or Grip Zone molded into it. #1 EDC combo in my opinion. The main benefit of this is that the front of the weapon stays very slim, making it a little more comfortable to conceal. For pocket carry, my choice would be a Springfield 911 9mm or Sig P938. A series of similar articles about different guns, chosen for whatever reason, would be useful. The SIG is overpriced for what it is and no Springfields for me, Thanks. Wouldve loved to get any one of those four, but in the end we decided that our budget didnt stretch up to a circa-$500 pistol and got a Taurus G2C instead for half the price. The Sig P938 vs Hellcat debate has been raging for years. Wrong size category. A very unscientific, but hopefully helpful comparison.https://www.patreon.com/gunsandthegospel Sig 365 vs Hellcat vs Sig P938 vs Glock 43 vs Kel Tec PF-9 Accuracy Test MSFT PISTOLS OF THE WEEK. Like the Micro 9, the P938 comes with a standard magazine capacity of 6 rounds with one in the chamber but there are optional 7 round capacity magazines which also feature an extended base plate which is ideal for concealed carry holders with larger hands who need a little extra grip to comfortably seat the weapon in their hands. For me? I appreciate the concern, but the photo is just fine. They also produce a wide range of 1911s, including compact 911s in .380 and 9mm calibers. Max-9: $499 (pistol) + $320 (mags) = $819 Anyway, three years later and the P365 still feels the smallest of these four handguns. LC9's is a slim lightweight reliable gun with the right holster. Saving a bunch up front make more mags an overall cheaper expense, and behold! Which should you choose as your next carry gun? At first I was disappointed w/ the 10# trigger, I was pleased when it pretty quickly dropped to 7.5#, the factory spec. I owned a LC9S for many years, but got rid of it due to the trigger had become too light. Grip texture on the P365 is just about perfect for me. JavaScript is disabled. Springfield 911 9mm vs Sig P938 MarksmanTV 120K subscribers Subscribe 789 Save 43K views 3 years ago Notice Age-restricted video (based on Community Guidelines) Almost yours: 2 weeks, on us. It seems to be the closest match capability and design-wise. If you are looking for a tank that can produce large clouds of vapor, the Hellcat is a good option. Not any worse than using a 33-rd stick in a Glock 26. But I still love the Nano. All rights reserved. The front and rear sights all feature glowing tritium vials, and the front sight has a polymer, high visibility green insert for daytime shooting. Gotta shoot em, baw. Frankly, its hollow, unused polymer in the heel of the Shield Plus and I think they should have bobtailed the thing hard. But theyre also very grippy with 90-degree edges and enough depth to provide really solid purchase. I have no need for a micro-compact. Soyes, I now feel a draw to replace that image but I also feel like doing so would be giving validity to a false narrative and surrendering to dirty politics. I like the LC9S with the slim design and like the grip. No matter which model you choose, the P938 is a great gun. It really depends on what you are looking for in a sub-ohm tank. What that picture reminds me of is one of those pyrotechnic pinwheel things, before ignition of course. This P365 and a P365XL are the only Sigs I own or have ever owned, actually. Even with the 15 rd. When he stood up it was upside down. Im not holding my breath for aftermarket P365 mags and dont need to SIG had supplied my Academy with plenty when I purchase the P365 a few weeks ago. Slides are the same, swap as you like, the 938, no, you buy it the way it will stay, pick the decorative motif and more than that, buy another. Two of the most popular choices on the market are the Springfield 911 and the Sig P938. They're really handy. I compared the 365 to the hellcat at gun store. Heck of a deal. Holy heck is it short and crisp with an insanely short, crisp reset as well. The Hellcat is extremely accurate and has a very nice trigger. That said, the manual safety on the Ruger MAX-9 is just right. The Hellcat is out for a couple of reasons, I had a chance to buy two at the beginning of the panic. Today we are stacking the standard P365 against the standard Hellcat. Mag spring pressures are higher in smaller guns and using the same ammo which includes +P means that propels the lighter, shorter slide even faster than a full size duty gun. Ive also owned just one s&w polymer pistol, an original m&p 9 pro, with around 25,000 rounds through it. purchase helps support my work in bringing you more awesome gun and gear articles. Subscribe to Pew Pew Tactical's sales and deals email. good after a fluff and buff on the reliability front, and accurate. Pick the type action you want. They just just came out with the Shield Plus that has a 13+1 capacity. The clip holds six rounds, and you can get another round in the chamber for the traditional 6+1 setup. Ultimately i thibk im gonna go with the P365X model for the longer grip while maintaining concealablity. And the Shield Plus weighs two ounces more. If youre looking for a smaller gun thats easy to shoot, the P938 is the better option. I have a slight preference for the Sig 365 over the Hellcat, but I run Sigs in competition and have been carrying a 365 since just after Shot 2018. Here are some things to consider when making your decision. Their offerings range from the AR-pattern SAINT rifles and pistols through to their M1A family. Persoannly Not interested in just a few more rounds. Thanks! The Hellcat is a very small gun, making it a good choice for concealed carry. Anybody ever use any 9mm wheelguns for CCW? I usually buy one box of my preferred carry ammo, Hornady Critical Duty 135 gr +P, a month to cycle, on top of handloaded target rounds, but since Sept. 2020, Im just running target ammo. Plan on using a mag loader, which I was forced to admit was necessary with the 938, especially when compared to Kahrs .380s. Its also a reliable and accurate gun, making it a good choice for self-defense or target shooting. However, they both have a few features worth mentioning that set them apart. Ive owned my P365 since a few months after launch, and in that time, Ive had very few issues. There is a reason it is not sold anymore, it is outdated. Check it out! I had been carrying a Smith and Wesson 640 pro, Bodyguard 380, and Diamondback Db9 gen4 before that. I could have gotten one for well under MSRP, that also tells me something. The Sig will not and the Croatian made Springfield I just would not buy. At the range, two different guns. Choosing a CCP is a matter of feel (grips) and aesthetics (looks) as the technical aspects. The Kimber Micro 9 is a great gun but the trigger on it from the factory is atrocious. You can throw these little guns farther than a full-size one, but they dont hit as hard. The writer of the article is doing a comparison off of the base models of each pistol. The large magazine release is easy to use, but not so tall that it risks accidental activation. Sig makes a laser, Streamlight makes two lightsand thats seemingly it. The most popular models are the 9mm and .45 ACP versions, but you can also find .380 ACP and .22 LR versions. Not truly a pocket gun it fits inside pretty good. One supplier even offers a printed jig to perform the minor grip modification. The Taurus is even farther off. I sold my 365, 365XL, and Shield when I changed over to a Wilson Combat X9S as my primary carry gun a year ago. Gotta do a size cutoff at some point, and both of those guns are big enough that I dont think they belong here. You can get the Hellcat with a thumb safety if you would like. I LOVE the Shield though. Its not rocket surgery. My personal choice for concealed carry at the moment is the CZ 2075 RAMI and Im saving $$$ for a Springfield EMP. I did shoot a P365 and shot it very well also but I like the trigger better on the Shield Plus. So, while the Hellcat is technically shorter, the P365 with its more rounded (slightly bobbed), shorter heel will likely conceal like the shorter gun. This is not an issue with the Hellcat magazines. Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting. The community shows this every day and rejects hateful messaging HARD. As mentioned above, the Hellcat shoots pretty darn softly given its lilliputian size and light weight. It is also a good choice for those who do not need as much power and vapor production. Springfield equipped the Hellcat with a very interesting sight setup. I'm a P365 Fan. Yes, because if theres one thing TTAG is known for, its our support of murderous fascist regimes. At an MSRP of just $499 (and when the market gets back to normal its going to retail for substantially less than the other three pistols) it includes the optics-ready slide and the tritium-illuminated fiber optic front sight. Its the skinniest gun of the group with the second smallest grip circumference, but its taller than the SIG and Springfield, which pair very closely on height and then the Ruger and S&W pair closely at about a third of an inch taller. Per the Max 9 review, do I need a rail tie to disassemble any of these or just the Ruger? No plans getting any of them. After shooting all four guns, I wont be trading in my P365. Two SAO vs. a striker fired? The Sig and Rugers are great. 1 more deal from grabagun.com 469.99 View Deal Springfield Armory Hellcat Micro-Compact Osp Or 1 more deal from guns.com 499.99 View Deal towards your level. That said, I wouldnt have gone with it as my first choice.